Wrong tense - "had" is the operative word today - they've even admitted that they are having QC problems
Recently got shot of my 1200GS, bought with 6k at 2 years old, on the clock and sold with 18k on the clock at 4 years old, in the 2 years and 12k I had it I managed:-
Warped Discs (Both)
Blown Fork Seals (Both)
Gearbox Oil Leak
Knackered Heated Grip
I actually thought the finish was reasonable and better than many bikes I have owned in the past, but the niggles put me off (most under warranty or extended warranty) and the knowledge that many bikes have issues with final drives, dropped valves, clutches and all manner of veru expensive problems (hence extended warranty)
With the average GS service costing close to £400 in the UK, plus a real need to extend the warranty every year (£300) and still having a £100 excess on warranty claims meant it was costing about £1,000 a year to keep on the road - not what I expect on a modern low mileage vehicle.
Michael J wrote:Have you seen the new Super Tenere? Looks like Yamaha is aiming at the big GS pretty hard.
Indeed, got myself this little beauty:-
A 6 month old ex-demonstrator with a mere 150 miles on the clock, and a saving of £2600 over new I could not resist, and to cap it all the dealer did not even charge for parts on the 1st service (Yamaha provide first service free by default, but you normally have to pay for the parts) so a big thumbs up to Slocombes in London on the deal and post sales service.
Loving the bike, far better than the reviews tend to suggest (probably due to BMW having a huge advertising budget in the UK press)
The motor is wonderfully grunty down low (can be improved further with ECU remap - or by shorting clutch switch if your on a budget
) with a smooth power curve all the way to the redline. Some argue it lacks character, but in the real world it is better than the GS motor, but I do agree the GS can feel more fun to thrash due to the way it wobbles and vibrates as you get into the powerband.
Handling is pretty good, not as fast turning as the GS (even with a load more pre-load) but the bike feels lighter on the move and is unbelievably stable, pegs go down a shade early but as I added a line of pre-load to help the steering this is now far more difficult to do unless really pressing on - I will add a shock with ride height adjuster at some point to lift it about 10mm which should sort it out nicely.
Fuel consumption seems very similar to the GS, if anything the Tenere is slightly better at higher speed like 80-90mph motorway cruising, and a shade worse when on back lanes and predominantly in lower gears, overall range will always be better (as it has a 4L advantage over the GS) and it should over 200 miles between fills on the motorway, where the GS was on fumes at about 160 miles when crusiing at French motorway speeds meaning I was often looking for fuel after 90 minutes.
I have already fitted a Givi Airflow screen as it worked so well on the GS (and seems equally as useful on the Yamaha) and have a full set of SW-Motech luggage going on next week.
Biggest gain is I am confident the bike will get me where I am going, I no longer need to carry spares and do not fear regular repair bills will eat into my petrol money.
I know in many countries the bike is cheaper than the GS and I really cannot see why anyone would but the BMW over the Yamaha, in the UK the bike is a bit pricey, but there are deals to be had.
I almost forgot the electronics, although I am not too bothered about such stuff, but the Yamaha impresses, with 3-stage TC, fully on I can open it to the stop in first on loose stuff and the bike just rides normally, as if you were just riding more gently, you don't feel anything being backed off, the GS TC used to almost throw you over the bars, when it came on the engine just cut out for about a second, with the Tenere you only know it activated because of the light on the dash. In TC2 it allows some spin, not tried this out yet but I am sure it works fine, and you can turn it off.
The ABS is also very smooth, much better than that on my GS and the ZZR1400 I had before that gave you s fright as it felt like the bike was running on as the shut off times seemed very long, the Tenere setup feels very confidence inspiring and apparently even works well enough on dirt for gentle off-roading.