Some high mountainpasses which I can't seem to locate...

[juha]

Hi John.

How about doing the list yourself like this:

1. Download one (or more) of those satnav files from this site.
2. Convert it to text here http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/convert_input

Juha

[Torque]

I don't think there's one person on the world who has all the roads and tracks in the alps in one file. Even the Denzel doesn't, I've ridden up to Fort Jafferau which is not in the Motoplus list, and Ive been on tracks which aren't in the Denzel.

So I'm guessing there's no one who will be able to give you a complete list, so you might stick to your list, and add a few fun tracks and roads you encounter in books and on the net to keep you bussy

Grtz, Philip!

[John Boy]

Thanks Juha/Torque, I will give it a go.

At this rate I will be 100 years old before I finish all the passes.
I have a list already with over 400 passes but whenever I log onto Alpine Roads I always add to the list.
It is as you say - it's all part of the fun!!!

[GiorgioXT]

Let see if someone knows this :
Forcella Chiandolada

Zone : Dolomites

[Torque]

Giorgio, that's just next to Passo Cibiana, isn't it?

Didn't know it, had to look it up. Have you done it?
Alpenrouten says it's doable, but on the Westside are some easy gravel patches. Very steep though, with tight hairpins I've read.

Is it better than Passo Cibiana?
I'll be coming from the South next summer towards Pieve di Cadore and was planning of taking Passo Cibiana. Now, if the Forcella Chaindolada is way better, than I very well might make a slight detour before arriving in Pieve

Grtz, Philip!

[John Boy]

Well, that's another two passes I now have to do.
May have to stretch this year's trip to three weeks now

[John Boy]

I have just realised - I have done the Passo Cibiana. It's your typical Dolomite pass, with no gravel (from what I remember anyway).
So how do you get onto the Forcella Chiandolada then???

[ChrisN]

Ah! I'm glad this thread has re-surfaced as I'm looking for advice/tips heading south over Col d'Agnel then over Colle di Sampeyre, and I see Michael has been over this area. I suppose I'm just looking for re-assurance that the roads do exist and what kind of surface I can expect further south as they don't show up on Michelin. My intended route takes me over Colle di Morte & co. and then back into France via Col de la Lombarde.

[Torque]

Chris, it's perfectly doable on a road bike, I've been over it last year and allthough you can do a gravel by-pass around Colle d'Ieschi and Colle dei Morti, if you just follow the track you made in MS, you'll be fine

[parny]

Sampeyre pass is fantastic and a really nice little rifugio where you turn off to Elva.

[John Boy]

I knew we had done the Sampeyre Parny. The one with the mad Swiss, Harley riders. Tried uploading a photo but my computer skills are not good enough.

[GiorgioXT]

Giorgio, that's just next to Passo Cibiana, isn't it?

Didn't know it, had to look it up. Have you done it?
Alpenrouten says it's doable, but on the Westside are some easy gravel patches. Very steep though, with tight hairpins I've read.

Is it better than Passo Cibiana?
I'll be coming from the South next summer towards Pieve di Cadore and was planning of taking Passo Cibiana. Now, if the Forcella Chaindolada is way better, than I very well might make a slight detour before arriving in Pieve

Grtz, Philip!

Forcella Ciandolada road starts from Vodo di Cadore and arrives in Zopp? di Cadore. Its narrow, real steep in the first part (paved) with >20% ramps, and with some parts gravel - easy doable also with road bikes
Here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgJB6uMzr_g
a video of the road taken by my friend Guido of the "Gelateria Cristallo" in Pieve di Cadore - excellent ice cream and extensive knowledge about rides..

[Torque]

Ok, that looks more than fine by me.

Giorgio, I'm planning of stayin overnight in Pieve, if it's good weather than it'll be on a camping, but if the weather sucks, i'd rather look for something with a roof above my head.
Do you know any cheap but halfway descent places in Pieve?

Grtz, Philip!

[GiorgioXT]

Ok, that looks more than fine by me.

Giorgio, I'm planning of stayin overnight in Pieve, if it's good weather than it'll be on a camping, but if the weather sucks, i'd rather look for something with a roof above my head.
Do you know any cheap but halfway descent places in Pieve?

When ?
anyway, there's no shortage of places :
Hotel Bel Sit - on the national road between Valle di Cadore and Pieve , no-frills but clean and with a good pizzeria - garage for bikes, open year-round
+39 0435 30227 (tell the tall and skinny owner that "Giorgio quello delle moto" sends you )
several Bed and Breakfast
a general link for accomodations

http://www.infodolomiti.it/dolomiti.990000599-1.run
and a specific nice B&B
http://www.dolomiti.it/en/bellunese/pieve-di-cadore/bed-and-breakfast/beb-piana-di-nebbiu/

There's a big camping at Vallesella-Domegge , lakeside , and a smaller one just 1 Km south of Tai di Cadore along the national road to Belluno-Venice
anyway, nobody will bother you if you place a tent in the bush for a night.

If you like a bit of gravel , there's also the mountain huts to offer lodging, most with exceptional views and always good typical food.

[Torque]

I would be arriving on tuesday the 28th of June, if al goes well

I sure do hope so that everythin goes well, I'm planning of taking the train back home from Innsbruck on thursday evening

Grtz, Philip!